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July 29, 2009

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Edson Pavoni

That is the question. Thanks for asking.
I will too.

Carl

Irrelevant from a people and cultural POV I would agree with you. This is something all agencies need to concede, but I think it's dangerous to suggest that traditional agencies have cracked it as some of the posts you reference seem to suggest.

Most of this comes down to the doing part and the other 80% of digital that isn't just about advertising and campaigns.

Cannes isn't a great indicator of digital at all. If it was AKQA would have won hands down.

Things like CP+B's Whopper Sacrifice is good. But it's essentially a Facebook app. AKQA have developed something that no traditional agency would have the desire, intention or capability of delivering.

It's certainly an interesting debate. Great post

eskimon

Great post Neil - your questions provoked even more questions in my mind, and helped connect a few thoughts too.

Our continued, myopic view of the world from our own, self-centred perspective stops us doing precisely what we want to do - i.e. connect with people.

Rather than fill your comments section up with an extended rant though, I've posted my thoughts here: http://eskimon.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/think-outside-yourself/

Would be great to hear your thoughts too.

Joseph Francis

Irrelevant now, maybe, but soon it will have retro cachet again, like 20th Century Fox.

:D

I know one thing - the oft-used term 'digital domain' died a sudden death as soon as Cameron named his company Digital Domain. No one wanted to remind their clients of a competitor.

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/2005/07/american_cinema.html

AdLand Suit

Well, thank Christ for that. Digital is dead. Long live ideas, enjoyment and being useful, wherever and however you happen to do it.

Mikej

great post

I think I love Carl's point about one cannes cant show that the world has changed. Droga made the comment that he was beginning to see digital ideas this year becoming more a part of a cultural movement... not just an app on facebook. Which begins to show its power but also a greater understanding of the broader context, which in the past has been something that the bigger agencies have tried to own. But it doesnt mean they all have infused that type of thinking in their business. Remember all the agencies are from smaller networks (otherthan dusseldorf bbdo) so they are agile and nimble enough to change.

Taking into consideration the comment you have included from Kevin Kelly and Clay Shirky's view on email. It is when it truly becomes invisible and a simple way of life that we truly cross the divide.

I believe the truth is that the industry shouldve changed a long time ago... but we were making enough money and things werent moving that fast so we could get away with it. The onset of additional marketing services was kind of nice and could have been an opportunity. The likes of M&B and Naked jumped onto it. But it took the networks a while. It was also limited. Digital came in quick .. a little bit of a side bet... but it didnt quite work the first time.. so we walked away. Thinking it was over. Then it came like a freakin hurricane. We all grabbed what we understood and some people had the guts to ride the storm. Now we are all trying to move over to the new town they have created. Some of us have built houses but a lot of us are still holding onto the scraps of the old one. I hate to be cheesy but Rome wasnt built in a day... even if the day was 2009.

big agency networks, as networks, are still behind. But if you ask me... it just makes it more interesting

thanks for letting me rant neil,

neilperkin

Great comments - thanks all. Carl, Mike - agree that one Cannes does not a changed world make. Interesting point about a cultural movement, though I guess we will have really got there when an idea ceases to be a 'digital idea' and becomes just 'an idea'...

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